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Failed PMP twice ! Next exam scheduled for next week 11 months 1 week ago #15019

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I studied the PMBOK guide very well this time, and I failed the PMP on 7 September 2018. However, I didn't take a single simulation test and also didn't review the marked questions- Reckon this led to my failure?
My grades (for the 2nd test) were as follows:
a. Initiating- Needs Improvement
b. Planning- Below Target
c. Execution- Target
d. M&C- Target
e. Closing- Below Target

What shocked me was the proficiency score for Initiating and Closing as I knew everything well in relation to these topics (all ITTOs/concepts).

Please advise the way forward as I'm at the point of a disaster now.

Failed PMP twice ! Next exam scheduled for next week 11 months 1 week ago #15025

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Hi Jacob,

From what I gathered in your post, there are quite a number of red flags in your study plan. First of all, is it possible to reschedule your next exam to a later date, so you will have more time to study? Do remember that after the 3rd exam attempt, you will have to re-apply again. Also it will take away a lot of your stress.

You mentioned you have a good grasp of the PMBOK guide, but I think there is still room for improvement in that regard. Try getting other types of study materials (PrepCast, Rita Exam Prep, PMI Exam Content Outline, Udemy courses, local PMP workshops) to reinforce your understanding of the concepts.

Practice exams are very important for your exam success, most of the success stories I gathered have at least done 6-8 exams before walking into the exam hall. My advise is do a lot of these mock tests, try a variety of different mock exam providers too.

Last but not least, staying stress-free and relaxed will help you tremendously during your exam preparation as well as during the 4-hour exam. Try to get rid of all sources of stress and worries and you will achieve max efficiency.

Best,
Joe
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Failed PMP twice ! Next exam scheduled for next week 11 months 1 week ago #15026

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Hi Joe,
These results are shocking to me as well. Initiation/Closing are very small process groups so it is very hard for me to get the cause of Need Improvement or Below Target result. Reading and Grasping PMBOK should cover most of the concept and should get Target grades at least. Do you think that PMBOK is not enough to get the Target in these two process groups?
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Failed PMP twice ! Next exam scheduled for next week 11 months 1 week ago #15027

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Deepak
I do not believe that The PMBOK will get you there. Over 35 yrs of program experience and the PMBOK was not enough for me! I needed all the other study methods noted by almost every one of the lesssons learned.
Best Wishes
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Failed PMP twice ! Next exam scheduled for next week 11 months 1 week ago #15028

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Hi Deepak,

To me it is all about maximizing the chance to pass the exam. If reading the PMBOK guide will get you to On Target, why not add a little bit of assurance by reading the other materials? Every extra effort you put towards the exam preparation adds up, and you may find information from other materials that the PMBOK guide does not include, or such concept is vaguely mentioned in the PMBOK.

After I finished the exam, I feel like the PMBOK guide is only a table of content to the PM world. The exam is only the first step of becoming a successful project manager, don't settle on becoming an On Target PM and instead aim to become an Above Target PM, and never stop learning :)

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Failed PMP twice ! Next exam scheduled for next week 11 months 1 week ago #15033

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Thanks John/Joe,
So adding Rita M book will be a nice idea?
I am referring to PMBOK and PrepCast simulator at present and planning to take the exam by Oct end.

Failed PMP twice ! Next exam scheduled for next week 11 months 1 week ago #15038

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I think the Rita book is a smart investment

Although it says 'Exam Prep' on the cover, I still refer to the book for my own projects from time to time.
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Failed PMP twice ! Next exam scheduled for next week 11 months 1 week ago #15045

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Is the PMI Exam outline in a particular order, specifically for the Initiating & Closing Process groups?

Failed PMP twice ! Next exam scheduled for next week 8 months 4 weeks ago #15711

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Hello Jacob, today I have had a PMP exam, same think happen to me. I asked PMP, why? Because I'm sure initiating and closing but I'm not sure many questions in executionand M&C. I wonder, did you pass or not?
a. Initiating- Needs Improvement
b. Planning- Below Target
c. Execution- Target
d. M&C- Target
e. Closing- Needs Improvement

Failed PMP twice ! Next exam scheduled for next week 8 months 4 weeks ago #15714

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I cleared the PMP 10 days later - thanks !

Failed PMP twice ! Next exam scheduled for next week 8 months 4 weeks ago #15715

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Please read my lessons learnt in another thread. Just follow the PMI Exam Content outline. Thanks.
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Failed PMP twice ! Next exam scheduled for next week 8 months 4 weeks ago #15717

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Jacob,
Can you please share what you did differently this time. You mentioned follow the PMI Exam Content outline. Can you please clarify more as the outline has tasks in each process group and no other detail.

Failed PMP twice ! Next exam scheduled for next week 5 months 3 weeks ago #16650

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Hey folks,

I passed the exam on the first try, but reading the PMBOK was not enough.

Here was my approach:

1. Read PMBOK for the first time - didn't worry too much about understanding everything. I focused on becoming familiar with the PMI terminology, which is very esoteric.
2. I bought RIta Mulcahy's PMP prep book. It's available on Amazon.
3. I re-read the the PMBOK by reading one chapter and then reading the corresponding chapter in Rita's book, completing the respective exercises, and practice exam at the end of each chapter.
4. I took a few PMP courses at the local university (many colleges have extensions that offer PMP classes) so that I could further understand the material. This step is optional as there are other ways to acquire the 35 contact hours needed to sit for the test. Some of the courses help and some didn't (due mainly to poor instruction).
6. I joined a PMP study group (4 people) to help understand the topics more effectively. The PMI website or your local PMI chapter can help you help you find a study group if you're interested. Each person was responsible for summarizing and presenting a topic each week; we met over a course of a few months.
5. This step was the most crucial one: I completed close to 2,000 practice questions, which I got from multiple books that are available from different sources, including Amazon. I think studying the PMBOK and Rita's stuff alone would have not gotten me there. Although the practice questions were not the same as the ones on the actual exams, after doing many of them, I noticed the same patterns emerge in the question types, which helped me answer the actual questions.

For the last step, I placed myself in the situation to try and complete 200 questions in the 4 hour timeframe (to simulate the actual exam). Doing so helped me build endurance. By the time I took the test, I felt as though I had already taken the real test multiple times before. Overall, I spent around 6 months studying for the exam, but I was working full-time at the time, so I was dedicating a certain number of hours each week to studying.

Hope this helps.

Frank

Failed PMP twice ! Next exam scheduled for next week 5 months 3 weeks ago #16652

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Hi Frank,

Congratulations on passing the PMP Exam! Thank you very much for sharing your lessons learned here with us.
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Failed PMP twice ! Next exam scheduled for next week 2 months 1 day ago #17712

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Yesterday I failed PMP for the 3rd time. I have 2 master degrees!!!. I am very disappointed . During the exam the same questions appeared 2 twice. Is this normal? I prepared very well this time. My result showed failed
and it showed where I just graphically. I am very close to target box!!!

Debie.

Failed PMP twice ! Next exam scheduled for next week 2 months 23 hours ago #17732

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I failed my first attempt last weekend. I read the PMBOK Guide 3 times, did 1400+ practice exams on the Prep Cast Simulator. Wrote down brain dumps of all 49 processes related to 5 domains and knowledge areas, and all formulas for Chapter 7. Perhaps reading RIta's book, and reading Section II PM Standards, to get an understanding of how all 10 knowledge areas come together in the 5 PM domains: Initiating, Planning, M&C and Closing. Need a a better study strategy and plan. Any suggestions ?

Failed PMP twice ! Next exam scheduled for next week 2 months 6 hours ago #17737

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Hi Dhanya,

First of all sorry to hear that your exam did not go too well.

I am sure we can help you form a study strategy, but first we are going to need more information.

How did you do on the Prepcast exam? Did you complete in full sessions? Do you mind posting the scores?

In the actual exam, did you feel any different compared to when you were in the simulations? (ex. stress, trouble reading questions). What was your score for the actual exam.

Meanwhile, I strongly recommend getting the Rita book, like you said it helps you tie all the knowledge areas together.

Cheers,
Joe
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Failed PMP twice ! Next exam scheduled for next week 2 months 3 hours ago #17740

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Thanks Joe for your response! My exam scores on the simulator practice exams were 48%, 50%, 46%, 43%, 54%, 50% and 55%. Scores have not been great for these tests, although I continuously kept doing the exams. In between exams I reviewed the incorrect answers in detail and cross referenced PMBOK guide for all the weak areas.

My PMP exam scores were:
Initiating- Below Target
Planning- Target
Executing Needs Improvement
Montoring & Controling- Needs Improvement
Closing- Target

What should be my best approach for my next attempt? And how long do you think I should wait until I re-take this exam?

Cheers,

Dhanya
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