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Application filling -PM expirience primary contact 6 years 11 months ago #1075

  • Milica Naumovska
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Hi,

I'm in a process of filling up the PMP Application form and I have one doubt regarding the part related to PM Experience on which I would appreciate some help.

To make my questions clearer, this is my personal situation: I’ve been working for an IT company for the last 5 years that is providing consultancy services for different clients all over the world (I’ve moved to another company recently - which is of no importance for the questions). During the mentioned period I’ve worked as PM on several IT consultancy projects for different clients.

My questions are:

1. In the part “Please identify the organization for whom you managed this project” should I provide organizational details for the Clients or for the IT company I was employed in? For ex. If I was assigned as PM on a project providing consultancy and development of an IIS for one governmental institution – should I place organization details of the government institution (as well as details for the other clients for other projects), or just the company I worked for?

2. In the part “Please identify your primary contact for this project” - can I provide a contact of my PMO from the IT company I was working for, regardless to the answer on the first question (of course by selecting Contact relationship: Manager/Director)? Since I don’t see any employment related records to be entered in the application form, I get puzzled how will PMI verify the primary contact validity if I do that?

Thanks !
Milica

Re:Application filling -PM expirience primary contact 6 years 11 months ago #1076

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Milica,

The answer for both is: Always put in the information from your actual employer and not the information from your customer.

I recommend to do it this way because it will be easier for you to handle during an audit. If you input your customer information and then you are audited you have to contact each customer separately. If you put in your employer information, then you only have to deal with one contact.
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Re:Application filling -PM expirience primary contact 1 year 8 months ago #5250

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I have a related problem. I have worked for the same company for over 15 years and our Human Resources Department is generally charged with handling references on employees. Additionally, we have had turnover the past few years and in the majority of instances the substantive supervisors who oversaw my work are no longer with the company. I was simply going to list the Human Resource Specialist in my oompany as the primary contact. So, the issue I have is twofold. One, is that (using HR) an appropriate approach. Secondly, if that is okay, would I list the HR representative as Project Sponsor or Manager/Director, etc...

Re:Application filling -PM expirience primary contact 1 year 8 months ago #5251

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Robert.... if I remember the wording on the application forms correctly, then PMI wants the name of a contact person who was DIRECTLY involved or who has DIRECT information about your work. So the HR department should not be listed here.

Do you still have contact to your supervisors who have actual knowledge of your work?

Also... what is the general consensus of the group here? What have you done in your particular cases? Who did you list?
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Re:Application filling -PM expirience primary contact 1 year 8 months ago #5253

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Robert wrote:
I have a related problem. I have worked for the same company for over 15 years and our Human Resources Department is generally charged with handling references on employees. Additionally, we have had turnover the past few years and in the majority of instances the substantive supervisors who oversaw my work are no longer with the company. I was simply going to list the Human Resource Specialist in my oompany as the primary contact. So, the issue I have is twofold. One, is that (using HR) an appropriate approach. Secondly, if that is okay, would I list the HR representative as Project Sponsor or Manager/Director, etc...

Hi Robert,

As Cornelius mentioned, I don't think HR is a viable substitute here. With regards to vouching for your experience, it's not mandatory that only your immediate supervisor's information is required. Anyone else (his/her boss, senior work colleagues etc.) who have been directly involved or have direct information about your work can be provided as a point of contact. When I was applying for the PMP certification, my manager was on maternity leave. As a result, I provided the acting manager's contact information who was eligible to verify my work.
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Application filling -PM expirience primary contact 1 year 8 months ago #5258

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I would give the name of the person that you were reporting to at the company and then comment that they are no longer there and their replacement is X.
HR would be no good to you, the only thing they are allowed to do is verify that you worked at the company, and getting HR involved means that you run the risk of your application not being dealt with as it gets pushed off people's desks.
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